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To order PV diagrams from the most negative work done on the system to the most positive work done on the system, you must calculate or estimate the area under each curve and apply the correct sign convention.

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Explanation and Justification:

  1. Work in PV Diagrams

    In a pressure-volume (PV) diagram, the work done by a system during a thermodynamic process is represented by the area under the curve of the process path.

    • If the volume increases (expansion), the system does positive work (Wby>0W_{by} > 0).
    • If the volume decreases (compression), the system does negative work (Wby<0W_{by} < 0).
    • If the volume remains constant (isochoric process), no work is done (Wby=0W_{by} = 0).
  2. Work Done on the System

    The problem asks for work done on the system (WonW_{on}). This is the negative of the work done by the system: Won=−WbyW_{on} = -W_{by}.

    • Therefore, for an expansion (volume increases), WbyW_{by} is positive, so WonW_{on} is negative. The larger the expansion (larger area under the curve), the more negative the work done on the system.
    • For a compression (volume decreases), WbyW_{by} is negative, so WonW_{on} is positive. The larger the compression (larger area under the curve), the more positive the work done on the system.
    • For an isochoric process (constant volume), Won=0W_{on} = 0.
  3. Ordering Principle

    • To find the most negative work done on the system, look for the process with the largest area under the curve during an expansion (volume increasing).
    • To find the most positive work done on the system, look for the process with the largest area under the curve during a compression (volume decreasing).
    • Processes with zero work (isochoric) or smaller areas (smaller expansions/compressions) will fall in between.

    Method to Order the Diagrams (assuming diagrams are provided):

  4. Identify Expansion/Compression

    For each PV diagram, determine if the process involves expansion (volume increases, path goes right) or compression (volume decreases, path goes left).

  5. Estimate Area

    Visually estimate or calculate the area under each curve. This area represents the magnitude of the work.

  6. Assign Sign for WonW_{on}

    • If it's an expansion, WonW_{on} is negative.
    • If it's a compression, WonW_{on} is positive.
    • If it's an isochoric process, WonW_{on} is zero.
  7. Order

    Arrange the processes from the largest negative value of WonW_{on} (largest expansion) through zero (isochoric) to the largest positive value of WonW_{on} (largest compression).

    Textbook Reference:
    This theory is typically found in the Thermodynamics chapter of a physics textbook, specifically in the section discussing Work Done by/on a Gas or the First Law of Thermodynamics.

    Challenging/Easy Aspects:

    • Easy: The concept that work is the area under the curve in a PV diagram is generally straightforward to grasp.
    • Challenging: The most common challenge is correctly applying the sign convention, especially distinguishing between "work done by the system" and "work done on the system." Students often confuse these or forget to flip the sign when the question specifies "work done on the system." Additionally, accurately estimating or calculating the area under complex curves (e.g., non-linear paths) can be challenging without specific mathematical functions for the paths.
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